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 		<title>Comment on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Review by: Sujan Gautam (Ktm Nepal)</title>
		<link>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-456</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 05:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-456</guid>
					<description>Thanks Mauriat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Thanks Mauriat.
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 		<title>Comment on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Review by: Mauriat</title>
		<link>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-455</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-455</guid>
					<description>Sujan: This is one of the biggest problems with the FC5 release. The Add/Remove programs &lt;i&gt;will not work without an internet connection&lt;/i&gt;. It is a known limitation and there is nothing you can do about other than copying ALL your RPM's from CD or DVD and creating a &quot;Local YUM Repository&quot; then manually editting your configuration to use the local instead of connecting to the internet. I understand if this sounds like too much work. I too was disappointed with the design.

ps. It would have been nicer if you posted this under the FC5 Released post instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Sujan: This is one of the biggest problems with the FC5 release. The Add/Remove programs <i>will not work without an internet connection</i>. It is a known limitation and there is nothing you can do about other than copying ALL your RPM&#8217;s from CD or DVD and creating a &#8220;Local YUM Repository&#8221; then manually editting your configuration to use the local instead of connecting to the internet. I understand if this sounds like too much work. I too was disappointed with the design.</p>
	<p>ps. It would have been nicer if you posted this under the FC5 Released post instead.
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 		<title>Comment on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Review by: Sujan Gautam (Ktm Nepal)</title>
		<link>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-454</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-454</guid>
					<description>I installled FC5 (64 bit) version but when i run Add/Remove program on my desktop. It crashes everytime and iam not able to see what i have installed also .......
Please show me some ways .....


Thanks 
Sujan Gautam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>I installled FC5 (64 bit) version but when i run Add/Remove program on my desktop. It crashes everytime and iam not able to see what i have installed also &#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Please show me some ways &#8230;..</p>
	<p>Thanks<br />
Sujan Gautam
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 		<title>Comment on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Review by: rjbond3rd</title>
		<link>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-452</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 20:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-452</guid>
					<description>Hi Mauriat,

I'm happy to report that the final FC5 seamlessly upgraded my install of FC5 RC3 (on a ThinkPad z60m with the Advanced Dock etc.)  

I know the release candidates are &quot;special&quot; and should not be considered upgradable.  But I'm just surprised it worked.   I won't push it next time though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Mauriat,</p>
	<p>I&#8217;m happy to report that the final FC5 seamlessly upgraded my install of FC5 RC3 (on a ThinkPad z60m with the Advanced Dock etc.)  </p>
	<p>I know the release candidates are &#8220;special&#8221; and should not be considered upgradable.  But I&#8217;m just surprised it worked.   I won&#8217;t push it next time though.
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 		<title>Comment on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Review by: Linux with Doubts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Fedora Core 5 Released</title>
		<link>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-179</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-179</guid>
					<description>[...] An incremental review compared with FC5-Test3  will be available in a few days. Current focus will be to install and get things working first! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>[&#8230;] An incremental review compared with FC5-Test3  will be available in a few days. Current focus will be to install and get things working first! [&#8230;]
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 		<title>Comment on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Review by: Mauriat</title>
		<link>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-174</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-174</guid>
					<description>JD: Well, the FC5 final is only a day away. Even though the kernel and most options will not be much different, you will have PLENTY of other users who will most likely be able to help. I hope you get it working!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>JD: Well, the FC5 final is only a day away. Even though the kernel and most options will not be much different, you will have PLENTY of other users who will most likely be able to help. I hope you get it working!
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 		<title>Comment on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Review by: JD</title>
		<link>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-173</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Mar 2006 03:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-173</guid>
					<description>Attempted to install FC5 x86_64 Test3 from CDROMs
burned from iso images all of which tested successfully.
The target machine is an anAMD64 3700+ machine.

1: X11 graphical support does not work
   on my laptop which has an ATI Mobolity Radeon 9600
   chip.
2: The Text interface is rather...screwed up and does not
     inspire confidence that one has made the correct
     selections/values. Tabbing or using the arrow keys
     to navigate the menus do not always work, and often
     create chaos on the screen.
I aborted the installation.

The good points: It actually gets to the point of probing
devices, and loads the needed drivers.
I was unable to get this far with FC4 release, which
resets the machine after loading linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Attempted to install FC5 x86_64 Test3 from CDROMs<br />
burned from iso images all of which tested successfully.<br />
The target machine is an anAMD64 3700+ machine.</p>
	<p>1: X11 graphical support does not work<br />
   on my laptop which has an ATI Mobolity Radeon 9600<br />
   chip.<br />
2: The Text interface is rather&#8230;screwed up and does not<br />
     inspire confidence that one has made the correct<br />
     selections/values. Tabbing or using the arrow keys<br />
     to navigate the menus do not always work, and often<br />
     create chaos on the screen.<br />
I aborted the installation.</p>
	<p>The good points: It actually gets to the point of probing<br />
devices, and loads the needed drivers.<br />
I was unable to get this far with FC4 release, which<br />
resets the machine after loading linux.
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 		<title>Comment on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Review by: Mauriat</title>
		<link>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-112</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 23:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-112</guid>
					<description>rjbond3rd: No problem. I'm glad you've got this all working!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>rjbond3rd: No problem. I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;ve got this all working!
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 		<title>Comment on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Review by: rjbond3rd</title>
		<link>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-111</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-111</guid>
					<description>Hi Mauriat, big correction: the Centrino wireless (ipw2200) support /is/ built into the FC5 RC3 kernel.  All I had to do was download the Intel firmware, unpack it in /lib/firmware, and reboot.  

&quot;dmesg &amp;#166; grep ipw&quot; shows it's fine, as does &quot;/sbin/lsmod &amp;#166; grep ipw&quot; (though it seems to get loaded regardless).  KWiFiManager also shows it's working just fine.

My apologies on the lack of accuracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Mauriat, big correction: the Centrino wireless (ipw2200) support /is/ built into the FC5 RC3 kernel.  All I had to do was download the Intel firmware, unpack it in /lib/firmware, and reboot.  </p>
	<p>&#8220;dmesg | grep ipw&#8221; shows it&#8217;s fine, as does &#8220;/sbin/lsmod | grep ipw&#8221; (though it seems to get loaded regardless).  KWiFiManager also shows it&#8217;s working just fine.</p>
	<p>My apologies on the lack of accuracy.
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 		<title>Comment on Fedora Core 5 Test 3 Review by: rjbond3rd</title>
		<link>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-106</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2006 13:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2006/02/23/fedora-core-5-test-3-review/#comment-106</guid>
					<description>Hi Mauriat, inspired by your previous post, I too installed FC5 RC3 (via DVD iso) to my brand new Thinkpad Z60m (joyously wiping out the factory install) and was mostly pleased.  What didn't work: after instalaltion, the &quot;run first time&quot; configurationwizard  froze when trying to configure the monitor (requiring a reboot).  fter rebooting I configured the monitor(as a generic LCD 1280x800)  (and created a normal user) without the help of the wizard.

Also, like you, I never got Gnome &quot;Add / Remove Software&quot; to work - it did give an error dialog (could have beendue to my lack of network connectivity?).

Lastly, all hardware I tested got recognized (on-board Ethernet, sound etc) except the Intel Centrino on-board wireless -- I had used readily available modified FC4 kernels (and Intel firmware) to get this working so was slightly surprised that the ipw2200 support was not built in (not the firmware, but the kernel module).

Oddly enough, the Ubuntu live CD /did/ recognize the Centrino wireless but not the on-board wired Ethernet (beyond a mere mention in dmesg output).

One random note: the volume setting on the &quot;configure soundcard&quot; was set about 3/4ths but made no sound, and sliding it up a bit fixed that.  I've experienced that before: the volume needs to be moved to &quot;kick&quot; the sound into working.

Pickiest comment I could ever make (I feel ashamed to even say this):  I wish someone would tune the guitar used in the WAV file for the soundcard test/detection (you know, the strummed guitar chords which pan left-right complete with cheesy amateur chorus effect?)  It sounds like an Ovation guitar plugged into a cheap amplifier, through a mike, pumped through a cheap P.A. system, tuned with a $10 auto-tuner, giving the whole thing a &quot;folk singer in a bookstore&quot; vibe.  I hope the next Brian Eno is reading this, or even the current one.

Looking forward to your guide as always...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[	<p>Hi Mauriat, inspired by your previous post, I too installed FC5 RC3 (via DVD iso) to my brand new Thinkpad Z60m (joyously wiping out the factory install) and was mostly pleased.  What didn&#8217;t work: after instalaltion, the &#8220;run first time&#8221; configurationwizard  froze when trying to configure the monitor (requiring a reboot).  fter rebooting I configured the monitor(as a generic LCD 1280&#215;800)  (and created a normal user) without the help of the wizard.</p>
	<p>Also, like you, I never got Gnome &#8220;Add / Remove Software&#8221; to work - it did give an error dialog (could have beendue to my lack of network connectivity?).</p>
	<p>Lastly, all hardware I tested got recognized (on-board Ethernet, sound etc) except the Intel Centrino on-board wireless &#8212; I had used readily available modified FC4 kernels (and Intel firmware) to get this working so was slightly surprised that the ipw2200 support was not built in (not the firmware, but the kernel module).</p>
	<p>Oddly enough, the Ubuntu live CD /did/ recognize the Centrino wireless but not the on-board wired Ethernet (beyond a mere mention in dmesg output).</p>
	<p>One random note: the volume setting on the &#8220;configure soundcard&#8221; was set about 3/4ths but made no sound, and sliding it up a bit fixed that.  I&#8217;ve experienced that before: the volume needs to be moved to &#8220;kick&#8221; the sound into working.</p>
	<p>Pickiest comment I could ever make (I feel ashamed to even say this):  I wish someone would tune the guitar used in the WAV file for the soundcard test/detection (you know, the strummed guitar chords which pan left-right complete with cheesy amateur chorus effect?)  It sounds like an Ovation guitar plugged into a cheap amplifier, through a mike, pumped through a cheap P.A. system, tuned with a $10 auto-tuner, giving the whole thing a &#8220;folk singer in a bookstore&#8221; vibe.  I hope the next Brian Eno is reading this, or even the current one.</p>
	<p>Looking forward to your guide as always&#8230;
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